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In the early 1790's a number of non-conformist ministers were becoming preoccupied with the notion of converting the heathen to Christianity and the first to form a Society to achieve this end were the Baptists in 1792. In the same year David Bogue preached a leading sermon on the subject at Salter's Hall in London and in 1794 he wrote a paper recommending missions to the heathen, which was published in the Evangelical Magazine. Whatever it was - I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and would not hesitate in recommending Robyn and her amazing harps. I will always be grateful to Robyn for making a harp available to me so that I was able to take lessons. You will be contacted as soon as an instrument comes in to arrange a time to pick it up. When however the time came & the Faculty made their appearance for the operation, no less than 4 of them, my Aunt it seems took fright & ran off with the rest, on which my Sister said she did not wish for anybody to be with her, & submitted her Neck to the knife with great Fortitude & Heroism, seeming to be by no means daunted at the preparations made for the operation, which (as it was necessary to take the bag containing the matter clean out) lasted near 10 minutes.' In June 1777, the tumour recurred, but on this occasion Marsh is rather more nonchalant in his account.

Later that year, in June, Marsh relates; 'My Sister having been in a low way lately, on account of having since we were with them in February, lost her little Girl & only Child (who was then in rather a delicate state of Health) Mr Williams promis'd her a Jaunt to London to meet us at this time & to go with us to to one of the Abbey Performances,' (of concerts in commemoration of Handel) 'which were now to be repeated. Accordingly they arriv'd a day or 2 before us, at Mr Fenn's in George Yard Lombard Street from whence in the Even'g of our arrival my Sister called on us, when the 2 Ladies imediately thinking of their respective Losses, were both overset & went to crying, but after a few Minutes recover'd & talk'd of other things 'till it was time for my Sister to return to George Yard, to which I accompanied her.' The child that Mary Williams had lost was Mary; b. On the 2d. day after my return home however I received a letter from Mr W. to say that he & his Apprentice were come to an open rupture; the latter having besides absent'g himself as before mentioned taken Money of his to the amount of £20 and upwards from the Till; in consequence of which he desired that she wo'd take him away again & that the Articles between them might be cancell'd.

In the autumn of 1787, Thomas Williams had taken John Marsh's cousin, John, as an apprentice in his business but the arrangement did not turn out well. Accord'gly on Sunday the 23d. (Dec. 1787) in the Afternoon I went in the Mail Coach to Mr. Williams's, where I had much talk with him & my Cousin, whom I found had not gone on well together for sometime past, the latter having soon began to complain of the confinement of the Shop, & to dislike the Business, & instead of going to Church or Meeting on a Sunday Afternoon & Evening as the other young Men usually did, used to take that opportunity of going to some Public House (not always of the best character) the Expences attending which being much beyond what his finances wo'd afford, he was induced to take Money occasionally from the Shop Till, which in the whole (as Mr W. had reason to suspect) amounted to about £20. Recently, I saw a friend of mine express to another friend that she "hated" their coach. The Dissenters, therefore, saw no chance of admission to full civil rights except through the the new Whig party under Fox, and through Parliamentary Reform.

The vessels we saw yesterday are still in sight. In 1789 the Spanish, who claimed a trade and settlement monopoly over the region, seized four British trading vessels. By the time the fourth child, John, was baptised in April 1789 they had moved from Portsea to the parish of Kingston (Hants), where they still were in January 1794 when the sixth child, Joseph, was christened. The Rate books for Portsea for 24th June 1785 showed that 'Widow Tremaine' lived next door to Thomas Williams, which suggests that Thomas was already resident at 118, Queen Street in 1785. Further, the rate book for October 1789 shows that Thomas was paying additional rates for 'back chamber; stable and landry'. John Brewer, in his book The Pleasures of the Imagination, comments that 'Marsh's choice of residences - in Salisbury, 一夜欢 outside Canterbury and in Chichester - underscores the importance he attached to music, for these cathedral cities, with their choirs, grand organs and snug 'society' gathered around a cathedral close, had the best environments for music to flourish in.' Brewer also observes that 'In the struggle between organist and evangelical, the organist triumphed.